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REBOL is using a windows function for decimal to ascii conversion that wine implements incorrectly.

I need to write my own form function to reformat, or I need to get the wine guys to fix this!

 

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Graham Chiu
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Apparently the decimal issue is a long standing Wine bug so it looks unlikely to be fixed soon.

I have compiled a Linux version which needs some testing.

Jerry, what is the viewer on puppy for postscript and pdf files?  Previously I was using Evince on Fedora.

 

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Graham Chiu
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I've also uploaded a beta-31 for windows which has some fixes for the decimal display bug so that it works better on Wine, but there are some more areas I need to apply the fix.

 

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Graham Chiu
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Graham:

I've also uploaded a beta-31 for windows which has some fixes for the decimal display bug so that it works better on Wine, but there are some more areas I need to apply the fix.

Sounds like quite a bit of hard work.

What is it you are having to code around (in non Rebol-speak).

 

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Every decimal is being displayed in scientific notation

Jerry, I don't think this looks good .. for the last 30 mins or so, there's been a red message saying "saving ram to puppy_save file" or something, and cpu has been running 100%.  I decided to shut down. Now there's a unionfs: message "new lower inode ctime" on the screen.

The current problems I have identified with the linux build is that

• browser doesn't invoke
• ghostscript is not creating pdfs

I need to try it on other versions of linux 

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Graham Chiu
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Graham:

Every decimal is being displayed in scientific notation

OUCH !

Decimals play a big role in medicine  

Although, I like the idea of the server running on NIX, I'm not sure it's going to ultra key.

One Windows 2000 server in an office isn't that bad !

All the clients can be NIX.

Jerry I run synapse-server.exe off a $300 Windows XP box and I've had no problems.

You don't need a big outlay to get Synapse Server up and running well.

You could use a cheap Windows Box until a NIX distro is found.

Just thinking out loud here.

 

 

 

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Jason

The reason we are pursuing this is so that we can get Synapse up and running from a bootable thumb drive.  A take and use anywhere EMR.

 

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Graham Chiu
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Synapse already is a take and use anywhere EMR.

Why move around the database when you can use Synapse over the internet so easily already ?  Keep the database on a robust server at your main office and just hookup wherever you are.

So, the goal is to go to another office, put the thumb drive with Synapse Puppy Linux edition on it in the drive, boot that PC to Linux and use that box as a NIX box ?

 

 

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Although Synapse is a use from anywhere EMR, it is not yet a set up by anyone EMR.  There are people who lack the technical skills, or resources, to install their own ASP server, and maintain it.  This is for them.

 

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Graham Chiu
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There are a number of goals with this.

• Have a USB drive as a means to run Synapse Client on any PC and not leave any patient traces on the host machine.  In this scenario, you run or have access to a remote server, and don't want to carry a laptop around with you
• Run both the client and server on the USB drive because you don't have internet access.  This database is your main database, or, you copy it back at the office to your main PC/server.
• This is also a great technology demonstration when doing presentations
• It also allows us to upload a complete working server/client environment for users to evaluate.  No licensing issues with Windows.
  
• Depending on the host, we may be able to automatically discover and use services like printers etc.
  
• This development leads to a robust linux server version for use in an office or remote hosted environment
  

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Graham Chiu
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Graham:

There are a number of goals with this.

• Have a USB drive as a means to run Synapse Client on any PC and not leave any patient traces on the host machine.  In this scenario, you run or have access to a remote server, and don't want to carry a laptop around with you
• Run both the client and server on the USB drive because you don't have internet access.  This database is your main database, or, you copy it back at the office to your main PC/server.
• This is also a great technology demonstration when doing presentations
• It also allows us to upload a complete working server/client environment for users to evaluate.  No licensing issues with Windows.
  
• Depending on the host, we may be able to automatically discover and use services like printers etc.
  
• This development leads to a robust linux server version for use in an office or remote hosted environment
  

 

Jason, all good points.  I was just asking the same questions of Graham myself on email.  If the goal is just to run the synapse server and client on a Linux Live CD, then the user still will likely need to be reasonably versed in Linux to use the right video driver, connect to various drives and the particular network the host computer is on, understand how Puppy Linux works with memory and their pesonal storage file, and so forth.  Using the Linux LIve CD iso as a LIvePC with Moka5 simplifies all that stuff, so the motif is basically plug 'n go.  My question was more "Why do we need plug 'n go"?  I see that Moka5 reallly does make that more-or-less possible.  Now the user doesn't have to install VMware player on the foreign machine, configure it and get it running, etc.  User probably just needs to install a print driver and that's about it.  I'm not sure, maybe Moka5 can even assess which print driver it needs for a particular machine and install it on Grafpup Linux for the user (doubt it, though).  For myself, I would just be happy to run synapse on my own Linux Live CD, as I am quite familiar with how to get those to work on a foreign PC.  I'll probably do just that, and run my REMR.FDB from a USB hard drive.  I don't leave any traces on the foreign PC, but I do have to be able to set the BIOS to boot from a CD or USB device, and some IT departments will not tolerate that.  For me, using a foreign PC is a reality, because I am not based in my own office, and IT will not permit me to hook up my own laptop to the network.  I think this would be true for a lot of docs who work in a variety of settings.  Maybe they have access to WIFI and maybe not.  Maybe they don't want to connect to their own synapse server over the Internet from whatever foreign machine they are on because of security concerns or unknown or unchangable network configurations.
 

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I can get PDF printing to work with both the Windows synapse client running under Wine and the the new Linux synapse client on Puppy Linux.  Had to change the browser to /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser in the Linux version.  I also had to check yes to all 3 boxes on a small dialog box that came up only briefly a couple of times as I was trying to print on the Linux version.  I have to try and replicate the conditions again, but this small dialog box came from the synapse client. 

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Keep fighting ! 

 

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I got the new synapse ODBC stuff working on Grafpup yesterday, but it was kluged and I don't like it.  I'm going to stick with the Puppy Linux 3.0.1.  It's small, has a lot of "swiss army knife" like tools, and has a small footprint.  I'll just have to make the Moka5 LivePC myself, as there is not a ready made one for it.

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jparkdo:

 I also had to check yes to all 3 boxes on a small dialog box that came up only briefly a couple of times as I was trying to print on the Linux version. 

Jerry, that's just a progress box .... ticking them doesn't do anything.  You must have done something else to get it to work.

 

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Graham Chiu
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